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[*] posted on 20-3-2018 at 12:45 AM
The UK and EU agree terms for Brexit transition period


http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-43456502

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The UK and EU have agreed on a "large part" of the agreement that will lead to the "orderly withdrawal" of the UK.

Brexit negotiators Michel Barnier and David Davis said the deal on what the UK calls the implementation period was a "decisive step".

But issues still to be resolved include the Northern Ireland border.

The transitional period is set to last from 29 March, 2019 to December 2020, and is intended to smooth the path to a future permanent relationship.

Mr Barnier said there was also an agreement on the rights of 4.5m EU citizens in the UK and the 1.2m UK citizens in the EU after Brexit, including giving EU citizens arriving in the UK during the transition the same rights and guarantees as those who arrive before Brexit.




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[*] posted on 25-5-2018 at 12:46 PM


Unresolved Brexit negotiations threaten continentwide security, EU lawmaker warns

By: Martin Banks   5 hours ago


British Prime Minister Theresa May, right, speaks to a group of soldiers of the NATO Battle Group at the Tapa military base in Estonia on Sept. 29, 2017. She was guaranteeing Britain's security commitment to the other 27 European Union leaders. (Marko Mumm/AP)

BRUSSELS ― Britain’s security and defense relationship with the European Union faces “a cliff edge” because of the country’s stalled exit from the organization, according to a senior British member of the European Parliament.

Charles Tannock said Thursday that not enough is known in how the U.K. will engage in European security and defense matters post Brexit.

He warned of Britain “falling off a cliff edge” if defense and security issues are unresolved by the time the U.K. leaves the EU at the end of March 2019.

“Time is fast running out. My fear is that vitally important security issues could all fall by the wayside if they are left to the very end of the current Brexit negotiations,” the center-right deputy cautioned.

The EU and U.K. are still thrashing out agreements over a range of matters, including the future trading relationship between the two sides and Ireland’s border, with security and defense being moved to the sidelines.

Tannock, who serves as the foreign affairs spokesman for his Conservative group in the European Parliament, raised his concerns at a meeting of the Constitutional Affairs Committee on “future EU-U.K. cooperation in security and defense” after Britain exits the 27-strong bloc.

“No one in the EU referendum campaign said that the lives of U.K. citizens could be in danger as a result of Brexit, and security and defense were rarely featured in the debate. But as it stands, I certainly fear a security cliff edge,” Tannock added.

He said his fears were exacerbated given the U.K.’s red lines, particularly opposition to the continued jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice, and the “paucity of time” left for Brexit negotiators to reach a deal. “If agreement is not found on these issues there is a real danger of a cliff edge, particularly on domestic security,” he said.

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His concerns were echoed by another speaker, Mark Leonard, of the European Council on Foreign Relations, a U.K.-based pan-European think tank, who agreed there was a “real danger of a security cliff edge.”

“The issue of security and defense has simply not entered the public consciousness on either the EU or U.K. side in these Brexit negotiations. The debate has been entirely about other issues,” Leonard said. “While there is a basket of incredibly complex matters to negotiate this one, the issue of security and defense, is quite different from other areas.”

“Post-Brexit security arrangements will be extraordinarily difficult to resolve, including U.K. participation in Galileo,” he continued, referring to the EU’s flagship satellite navigation program. “But at a time when we are seeing all sorts of challenges everywhere from Russia and China to Donald Trump, we have to be aware that if EU side falls apart, it will be difficult to preserve the current world order.”

There is uncertainty over the U.K.’s involvement in Galileo.

Germany and France are reportedly split on whether to allow the U.K. access to Galileo after Brexit. Germany supports the European Commission in seeking to deny Britain access to Galileo’s encrypted system for government and security use.

However, France has joined Spain, Sweden, the Netherlands and the Baltic states in objecting to the U.K.’s exclusion.

One European diplomat said Germany was using security as a lesson in the benefits of EU membership and the cost of leaving.

This comes after Martin Selmayr, the German secretary-general of the European Commission, wrote to the U.K.’s ambassador to the EU, Tim Barrow, about the end of Britain’s participation in Galileo without proper consultation with member states.

“There is sympathy for Britain at being treated in this peremptory way,” another official noted.

Britain has spent about £1.2 billion (U.S. $1.6 billion) as its contribution to building the nearly £9 billion satellite system. But as things stand, only EU members would have access to the crucial military-grade data from Galileo. The U.K. has subsequently threatened to build its own system.

A U.K. government spokesman told Defense News: “The U.K. wants to continue participating in Galileo. This is in the mutual interests of the U.K. and EU, benefiting European competitiveness, security, capability development and interoperability.

“Future U.K. participation in Galileo should be agreed as part of the future security partnership between the UK and the EU.

“If agreement cannot be reached on the future balance of rights and obligations, and U.K. security and industrial requirements consequently cannot be met, the U.K. could not justify future participation in Galileo. In parallel, the U.K. is therefore exploring alternatives to fulfill its needs for secure and resilient position, navigation and timing information, including the option for a domestic satellite system.”

Tannock says the U.K. government should also ensure continued participation in other judicial and security-related program, such as the European Arrest Warrant and EU police agency Europol.

Another speaker at the hearing, Wolfgang Ischinger, a former German ambassador to the U.K., suggested that a “firewall” be created separating security and defense issues from other aspects of Brexit talks, such as trade.

“The U.K., even before the EU was founded, has always had a substantial strategic interest in ensuring that countries on the European continent would not go to war with each other,” he said. “For the 27 member states that remain after Brexit, it will be in their natural interests to still have the U.K. associated with defense and security interests as closely as possible, with or without the EU.”
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[*] posted on 25-5-2018 at 10:04 PM


No one has given much thought to post-Brexit security ties between the UK and the EU because the UK and NATO will continue to operate the way it has for decades.

After all the US isn't part of the EU and seems to succeed very well, in part due to NATO ties.

The UK wants out of the EU and its works, but it's not leaving Europe and will continue to be a part of the European security landscape, through NATO.

Sometimes these EU parliamentary and bureaucratic types can't see the forest in front of them for the trees.




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[*] posted on 26-5-2018 at 10:08 AM


Quote: Originally posted by unicorn  
No one has given much thought to post-Brexit security ties between the UK and the EU because the UK and NATO will continue to operate the way it has for decades.

After all the US isn't part of the EU and seems to succeed very well, in part due to NATO ties.

The UK wants out of the EU and its works, but it's not leaving Europe and will continue to be a part of the European security landscape, through NATO.

Sometimes these EU parliamentary and bureaucratic types can't see the forest in front of them for the trees.
It's been the UKgov side who have linked their Brexit deal to wider European security issues...

It's ironic the UKgov is concerned about Galileo's PRS signal now, since the were the ones who pushed for the 3rd country rule... the same rule that will see them lose access to it...all to keep the Chinese from using it.




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[*] posted on 12-7-2018 at 06:45 PM


So given the current state of the UK's Brexit preparations, is anyone taking bets on the chances of a revote to remain in the EU?



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[*] posted on 12-7-2018 at 07:02 PM


Quote: Originally posted by ARH  
So given the current state of the UK's Brexit preparations, is anyone taking bets on the chances of a revote to remain in the EU?


A recent poll would tend to indicate that the Pro-Brexiteers remain the dominant force.........................see here:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/986461/brexit-news-l...
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https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/fears-of-no-deal-prompt-...

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A Brexit backlash is stirring just eight months before the UK is due to leave the European Union, as headlines warn of stalled negotiations, hospitals stockpiling medicines and supermarkets stockpiling food.

For the first time since the 2016 referendum, a major poll has shown the public breaking sharply against Brexit.

About half the population want another referendum to give them a choice between the government’s proposed Brexit model, a ‘no deal’ Brexit, or deciding instead to stay in the EU, the Sky Data poll published on Monday revealed.

If there were such a vote 58 per cent would choose to "remain" in the EU, 32 per cent would vote for 'no deal' with Brussels, and only 10 per cent for the Brexit plan that Theresa May thrashed out with her cabinet a fortnight ago – prompting several high profile ministerial resignations.

Just one in 10 voters think the government is doing a good job negotiating Brexit, the poll found. Two-thirds expect Britain will get a bad deal once negotiations are finished, including a majority of Leave voters.


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Until now most polls have showed few signs of 'Bregret', staying within a few percentage points of the referendum result. Most polls showed a slight advantage to Remain, but were balanced by the fact that many Remainers are young people less likely to vote.

Unless the new poll is a statistical anomaly, a lot of former pro-Brexit voters are now starting to change their minds.

“The lack of faith in the [government’s] handling of Brexit is affecting perceptions of Brexit itself,” Sky’s political editor Faisal Islam said.

“The Brexit middle ground is disappearing from underneath the Prime Minister’s feet.”


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Another poll by YouGov released on Friday found that 83 per cent of Leave voters stuck by their decision, but 7 per cent had changed their minds and another 10 per cent didn’t know whether they had been right in hindsight.

An earlier YouGov poll saw Prime Minister Theresa May’s personal favourability at an all-time low.

When voters were asked who would make the best prime minister, the winner was "don’t know" at 39 per cent, followed by May on 32 per cent and Labour’s Jeremy Corbyn on 26 per cent.

Another poll released on Monday found that 56 per cent of small companies would vote to stay in the EU if there was a re-run of the Brexit referendum – and only 32 per cent wished to leave.

The survey showed a 7 per cent swing towards remaining since April 2017.




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[*] posted on 31-7-2018 at 09:55 PM


There are several efforts to undermine or reverse the decision of the Referendum all driven by the narrow clique at the top of society. People who were happy to ignore the plight of millions in the UK.
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[*] posted on 1-8-2018 at 06:43 AM


Just wait for the last quarter of this year, when people grasp the repercussions, should this continue to evolve towards a no-Brexit deal! Apart from the medium term economic impact, the UK imports up to 50% of its food from continental Europe. So in the worst case add two factors:
1) a no-Brexit deal means from one day to another, no free trade and all harbors are shut or due to a lack of sufficiently (trained) inspectors, goods pass in slow motion compared to one day earlier
2) Europe currently suffers from an unprecedented drought, with early newspaper articles already hinting at widespread devastated harvests with price hikes expected next year.

That alone would be ... a very fast, very hard hitting short term impact when people wake up Monday, April 1st 2019, and the supermarkets turn empty. Not a fools day joke, and hopefully something that we are spared from.
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Quote: Originally posted by Zen9  
There are several efforts to undermine or reverse the decision of the Referendum all driven by the narrow clique at the top of society. People who were happy to ignore the plight of millions in the UK.

I'm Irish, we voted to alter our Constitution and signed the GFA etc in good faith that the UK would honour their side....and all we see now is people trying to backslide on it, saying it's no big deal.
Hell there are opinion polls asking which is more important for leave voters in the UK, leaving the EU or peace in NI and they are coming down on the leave EU side...

Look I don't care if the British attach rockets under the home counties and launch themselves off to the belt and become Galactic Britain, but we'll hold the UKgov to the deal they made over NI.....or they can just show themselves to be untrustworthy, up to them.




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[*] posted on 23-11-2018 at 07:01 PM


EU sets out its vision for future relationship with UK, including defence and security

Brooks Tigner, London - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly

23 November 2018

The EU released its draft framework for a future relationship with the United Kingdom on 22 November. It embraces all envisioned aspects between the two sides after Brexit and will be endorsed by EU leaders and UK Prime Minister Theresa May at an extraordinary summit in Brussels on 25 November.

The 36-page political declaration strives for “an ambitious, broad, deep, and flexible partnership” in defence, security, trade and economic co-operation, law enforcement, criminal justice, foreign policy, and other sectors.

For defence, it says the future relationship should benefit from research and industrial co-operation in European collaborative projects to “promote interoperability and joint effectiveness of their armed forces”.

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[*] posted on 29-11-2018 at 08:49 PM


Brexit causes Airbus to move 80 Galileo jobs to Europe

Charles Forrester, London - Jane's Defence Industry

29 November 2018


SSTL workers test a payload for the Galileo satellite. Airbus UK has had to relocate 80 jobs to France as part of its work on the Galileo programme. Source: SSTL/Philip Davies

Airbus has been forced to move 80 jobs from the UK to France as a result of the UK's withdrawal from the European Union (EU) and the company's departure from the Galileo satellite navigation programme.

In comments to the UK's Parliament's Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy Committee on 28 November, Airbus UK Senior Vice President Katherine Bennett said the company had to move the positions to France to undertake older work on the programme.

"We understand the rules, you need to be an EU national to work on these projects as they are obviously linked to national security. It's a shame, because we have real, specialist skills."

The company is currently bidding for work on the Copernicus programme, which Bennett said would bring in an estimated EUR1 billion (USD1.13 billion) benefit to the UK.

"We are already delivering on these projects, it's just the next phase of bidding. So, we are in active discussions with government here and in Brussels," Bennett added.

Royal Aeronautical Society President Simon Henley added that the industry was starting to see companies being stopped from bidding on the Galileo programme, and European companies winning contracts that would have previously been awarded to UK firms.

"There is evidence now that we have lost work that we would have otherwise expected to win," Henley said, adding that "Galileo for Europe without the UK involved will be slower and more expensive for Europe."

Bennett went on to say that Airbus had so far spent about EUR50 million preparing for a no-deal Brexit, with the company putting investments in the UK "on hold" because of the current uncertainty.

"If the withdrawal agreement is successful, then we will consider investing in the UK," Bennett said.

When pressed for values on investments in the UK by the committee if the Brexit vote had not happened, Bennett said the company had been spending about GBP500 million (USD638 million) in research and development in the UK.

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[*] posted on 5-12-2018 at 11:44 PM
Majority believe Brexit wrong call: poll


https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/latest-news/majority-b...

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Fewer than four in 10 Britons (38 per cent) now think the UK was right to vote for Brexit, while almost half (49 per cent) believe it was the wrong decision.

The 11 per cent gap is the widest recorded by pollsters YouGov in a regular series of monthly surveys for the Times, while the number believing Brexit was right is at its lowest and those seeing it as wrong at its highest.

Virtually every poll in the sequence since the summer of 2017 has found a majority believing that the wrong decision was made in the EU referendum of 2016.

The results came as MPs were embroiled in five days of debate over the EU withdrawal deal reached by Prime Minister Thjeresa May in Brussels last month.

The poll found just 23 per cent of those questioned support May's Brexit deal, against 46 per cent who oppose it.

But the Conservatives remain ahead in terms of voting intention, on 40 per cent, compared with Labour's 38 per cent and 9 per cent for the Liberal Democrats.

Some 35 per cent said May was best choice for prime minister, against 24 per cent for Labour's Jeremy Corbyn and 37 per cent opting for neither.

YouGov interviewed 1624 British adults on December 3-4.




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[*] posted on 6-12-2018 at 05:24 AM


It's a curious thing to hear such complete lack of comprehension from a country and people who of all should have the sharpest understanding of how the Empire treats it's subjects.

Speaking as an Englishman who has had no body represent my country and people distinct from 'Great Britain' or any referendum on how we are governed.

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[*] posted on 10-12-2018 at 11:47 PM
European Union court rules UK can change its mind and pull out of Brexit


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-10/brexit-eu-court-rules...

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The European Union's top court has ruled Britain can change its mind over Brexit, boosting the hopes of people who want to stay in the EU that the process can be reversed.

In an emergency judgement delivered just a day before British Parliament is due to vote on the Brexit deal agreed with the EU, the European Court of Justice (ECJ) ruled that when an EU member country has notified its intent to leave, "that member state is free to revoke unilaterally that notification" without consulting other member states.

The ECJ said in its statement that Britain should suffer no penalties if it halted the Article 50 process.




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[*] posted on 10-12-2018 at 11:55 PM


I'm rapidly coming of the opinion that a second vote is necessary.......if that cancels BREXIT, so be it.

The sheer shyte that is currently going on, is generally ignoring the people whilst various fuck-wit politicians grandstand from BOTH sides...................
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[*] posted on 11-12-2018 at 11:31 AM


Given how close the Brexit vote was, and the fact it came about on the back of a public relations campaign fuelled by rampant misinformation, and the fact there was no Brexit strategy proposed at the time, and the fact that there still is no viable Brexit strategy in place, which is running the risk of a minority government losing a no confidence vote, a second referendum would seem to be the most appropriate move at this point.



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[*] posted on 11-12-2018 at 08:19 PM


Here is nice rundown of possible and immediate issues, taking effect on April fools day 2019:

http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Short_sharp_shock_if_no-deal...

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But here are some things London is telling Britons to brace for in the first days of a worst-case scenario pullout.

- Rip-off roaming -

It is on their mobile phones where people could first notice things.

Free roaming would no longer apply and UK mobile phone operators can start charging extra for subscribers who pop off to "the Continent".

London is also urging people in Northern Ireland to watch out for "inadvertent roaming" when straying too close to the EU border with Ireland.

- Grounded at Heathrow -

Heathrow and other big airports can be a nightmare at the best of times.

But planes getting grounded when Brexit strikes at 2300 GMT on March 29 because airlines have lost their licences would create chaos that ripples across the world.

London says it would "envisage" granting European carriers special permission to keep flying -- and that it would "expect" the 27 EU countries to do the same.

- Forms, forms, forms -

Prepare to start signing your name. A lot.

Thousands of companies in Britain that do business with Europe would have to fill out reams of customs and duties declarations.

British tourists to the EU who want to rent a car may need to get international driving permits because their UK licences become invalid.

And even pets might need to jump through new administrative hoops that require them to have new passports.

People might want to check theirs as well. Those that expire within six months of travel might need to be renewed in advance.

- Drug dilemma -

Things turn more serious for those who rely on medication.

Officials are talking to drug companies about creating a six-week "buffer stock" on top of the three months they already have in place.

This should help cover any short-term disruptions at the border. Britain will also waive the need for EU firms to re-test their drugs under new rules.

- Shoppers beware -

That one-click purchase at your favourite online store might start looking slightly less tempting.

The British government says "increased costs and slower processing times" for payments made in euros are a possibility.

Parcel deliveries could also get more expensive because waivers for certain import and sales taxes would expire.

- Flicks and tunes -

Catching up on the latest Netflix releases while coasting on a high-speed Eurostar train may suddenly become a whole lot harder.

Britons could theoretically lose access to streaming services while abroad -- everything from Spotify to Amazon Prime -- because the UK would no longer be in Europe's "digital single market".

And the Eurostar service itself might be in trouble because old licenses of UK train operators in Europe will be invalid.

- Pork pies -

Britons are proud of their Stilton cheese and Scotch whisky.

But the status of everything from Cornish pasties to Melton Mowbray pork pies will be up in the air because they will lose their "geographical indication" status in Europe.

Britain's 86 GI-protected products make up a quarter of all its food and drink exports.

- Surprises -

A host of other industries and products could also be affected.

Britain will have to come up with its own warning stickers for packs of cigarettes because the current ones are protected by the EU image library.

Imported sperm donations could face delays or stoppages.

Caviar supplies might start running out because Britain will not be able to trade in goods covered by European endangered species rules.

Also facing possible disruption: breeders of pedigree British horses and sheep.
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[*] posted on 11-12-2018 at 11:43 PM


Just remember, the people voted for this, it is what they wanted.



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[*] posted on 12-12-2018 at 12:35 AM


You know I get it that the UK will be leaving, but has no one realised yet that the same politicians that have been the cause of most of the shite during these times are also the exact same politicians who'll be the ones guiding the UK post Brexit?

If I were a Brit I'd be terrified.....




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